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Well, needless to say, she will have some surprises when she gets to France and starts "speaking"! I think what I can say is that it really depends on how you comprehend something and as what MT said: "Never ever try to memories words. We don't memorize, we just listen and understand, and for a course of time you suddenly exercise your tongue into speaking it nicely.
My advice is to just listen to the lesson and again and again listen to it even though your not paying attention ;. My situation is a bit more difficult, since I can only rely mostly on audio programs, being totally blind, combined with the fact that not much foreign language learning books get put in braille here. I seem to find Pimsleur useful, but the big problem I have is when I finish it, I don't know how to find some sort of program to teach me more everyday vocabulary and maybe more advanced audio-only courses.
Michel Thomas, I definitely couldn't recommend it on its own. For example, you do it in nearly any language, you don't learn things that you really should know, such as greetings, numbers, much foods. I think if you do Pimsleur and you suddenly listen to a radio station in another language, you will have an easier job of hearing a word and knowing what they're talking about. The MT courses, often they are not sentences you'll say everyday to your friends, just really long sentences that somehow feel heavy.
I would like to know though, what other audio programs have you found useful? Are there any that you don't have to use the book? I purchased MT Total Polish on the basis of a freebie trial lesson. At first it was good, but the 'teacher - bright student - poor student' roleplaying chit-chat soon became distracting, and I lost interest. What is the point of including acted out errors and silly little jokes in a language course? That lasted less than 5 Minutes! Woody Allen is living proof of this.
The MT 'method' is not a patch on the Pimsleur 'listen-and-repeat' and learn words and phrases in reverse approach, which is professional, businesslike, does not allow for mistakes, and for me, is instantly engaging; not to forget the inclusion of very useful cultural notes in some of the courses, and of course, the NATIVE language speakers. Where with Pimsleur I start learning, and thinking in the language immediately, with MT, I had to recapitulate on the previous lesson every time.
I used the MT course to learn Chinese. After 2 months I started speaking to my local Chinese friends. Basic conversations, yes but Chinese. I also speak some Norwegian, which I learnt at a school in Oslo Norway. The MT system is great. Okay I can't read or write Chinese but for people who just want to speak a language, it works for me. I can't understand why you don't rate it?
I ran into your article while searching for "learning European Portuguese". I'm hoping to travel to Lisbon again in December. While I appreciate your review, for me, I would have appreciated that you left out the personal "bashing" of his background, etc. How is that relevant? I do have to say, after listening to the MT "sample" lesson, I picked up way more that I have on other intro lessons.
But, I'm slow to pull the trigger on a program yet. Apps, courses, youtube I'd really appreciate it! I believe MT is the best method out there in that it teaches a lot considering the short amount of study time. I don't know any method that can teach as much as MT does in such a limited time.
However, the course itself is not the best. It is too short which renders it uselless unless you continue your studies with other materials. Bottom line, I believe it's the fastest and the most effective way of learning a new language; however, it's just too short and fails to cover the basics of a language. I just discovered this website after spending ten minutes with the MT Italian course which had been recommended to me, and having just started listening to it and being utterly incredulous, want to find out whether others found his courses as ridiculous as I do, or whether I'm being overly harsh.
I confess I'm relieved to find. After being entreated to "lorn ze stracture av ze langvijj", I couldn't help thinking that perhaps he ought to have spent a few minutes learning correct pronunciation as well, certainly of the English Language at any rate; I found that I had to listen very carefully to catch what he was actually saying. Whilst I realise close attention is beneficial to the learning experience, I don't feel that should extend to trying to understand the instruction given in my own language, and it certainly doesn't conform to his professed teaching methodology.
For me, he fails as a language teacher on an epic scale. As a keen Italian cook, with an interest in Italian cinema and having spent time in Italy in the past, I already have a feel for Italian pronunciation. This is why, as Michel continues promiscuously dropping both definite and indefinite articles as he goes , thoroughly mispronouncing the first Italian words he introduces with a thick German accent, it just seemed horribly wrong; a beautiful, musical language mashed into guttural, sibilant grunts.
Then came the loud and annoying PEEEEP followed by a student answering his basic questions, always in their own horrible accent with no attempt to sound Italian, and often mispronounced. It was a genuinely painful aural assault. Considering the preamble about being as relaxed as possible, I found it utterly frustrating and stress inducing to listen to, so much so that my instinct was to throw my CD player out of the window due to the internal scream of "Make it stop!
Make it stop! This was after less than ten minutes. I scrambled to hit stop on my CD player and instantly felt a sense of relief. Why would anyone want to use this as an introduction to a foreign language? I want to learn the language properly, with correct pronunciation, in a way that will be easily understood and appreciated by native speakers.
I can't see that happening with this course. This course is a joke, one that I felt the butt of for having invested in. Incidentally, I'm returning it on the basis that it is simply not fit for purpose. I will not go into much detail but I am quite happy with the Total Spanish course because of the simplicity and easiness it creates for learning the Spanish language.
I only bought it in April this year and was listening while driving my car in the morning. It gives the necessary skill to form the basic sentences and understand elementary concepts. After a few months I realised that I could read Spanish texts with ease and write my own sentences. Listening and conversational skills may take years to practice in any language and it is due to various aspects such as clarity of language, pronunciation, speed, dialects etc.
I did not expect this course to be equal to a classroom-based learning, and it does exactly what it is designed for - to give the basic understanding of that language. The rest is up to you what you wanna do with it and how you wanna master The Total Spanish course is taught by MT himself and I like his simple way of building up the vocabulary and grammar skills.
I cannot comment on other courses though. I am a linguist, translator and language teacher by my background and I know several other languages already. I think this was the easiest way of acquiring another language without putting too much effort. I'm a huge fan of the MT method. I had been trying to learn German for 20 years when I used the MT cds.
It was my a-ha moment. I have completed the first German program and can read pretty well and can get by conversationally. I also used the Spanish course and got most of the way through that one. I can read a lot, but have trouble with conversation. I have a great base though. I used the mandarin program for about an hour before going to China and just with the few words and understanding I knew I was able to get us out of a sticky situation with a cab driver while we were travelling.
I recommend MT to anyone that I hear talking about learning language. I used the earlier versions of the Arabic. I thought it was good. I noticed straight away that Jane Wightwick's pronunciation was weird but her English pronunciation is quite weird too - she says 'tomaaarrroe' for 'tomorrow' for example.
I had taken classes before moving to Cairo and the MT really helped me put sentences together when speaking. A friend who had lived in Egypt for a while but basically used the point and say a noun method of communication found it incredibly helpful to learn to construct sentences. She played it to an Egyptian friend who said there was nothing wrong with Jane Wightwick's accent!
She has been involved in a lot of learning arabic courses not just MT and not just Egyptian. Anyway, thank goodness Mahmoud was there. Other friends also found it useful for learning to create sentences. I also learned to read arabic script and so forth, obviously not from MT, but a lot of foreigners really don't want to learn the arabic script, just speaking, as I found out. I believe this gives a satisfaction; - it is really engaging and keep you there; - I like a lot this audio method of language learning where you need to translate.
I used the same method a lot for learning Spanish with Pimsleur and other such courses "Learning Spanish like crazy" if I rememeber correct. There are people saying that you don't need grammar, but I truly believe you need it in order to have a logical system in place.
How curious! I've brushed up on 4 Euro languages using MT, and learned basic Italian from scratch. I found him superb! Not perfect, but superb. I've also explored some of the more exotic languages, and found them a delight. My Shanghai born fluent Japanese speaking friend said my Mandarin tones were fine, and the basics of Japanese were relatively easy. I'm not discounting the points in this excellent article, only suggesting that even so, I've found MT hugely useful. I stumbled onto your site while searching for a decent Egyptian Arabic course.
Although I see your points, and agree with many, it's dependent on the way you're looking at the MT courses, and your expectations. Caveat: Use the course for what it is, and don't expect any one course, no-matter which, to make you a language master. You will always have to do the work, learn further vocabulary, practice listening to different conversations, radio programs, and accents etc.
No course will give you all the vocabulary you personally need for your way of life, job, interactions etc. Also remember: you didn't learn to write by writing a letter or word just once, you can't learn the piano by playing a note or chord just once. Sure, relax-listen-repeat-absorb, and then do it again, and again I sat a face-to-face placement interview. This was the first time actually conversing with someone in French, having only used MT.
We covered a number of topics to gauge my competence, and I was then placed in the Intermediate class. I was pleasantly surprised at my ability to communicate with the interviewer as I hadn't previously put my French to use. I did the same with the Japanese. I was taking a trip to Japan and had a few months to prepare. She was very pleased with my ability to have a basic conversation. I do agree that the leveling is not correct, but you will be able to communicate with others.
Again, it comes down to expectations. I also greatly agree that the comprehension part is severely lacking, but I find that is something you will work on for quite a while with any course and depending on where you go, different accents, etc. After these experiences, I do believe that the original MT courses are a good start.
But they are just that No-one should believe you'll master the language simply using these courses. Yes, they used to use the term "Advanced" course etc. A little research is required, and a realistic expectation. Did you really think any one course would cover everything you would ever need to master a language? MT is useful and I can recommend the two courses I've used personally, but again, use them as a starting point, a very good one, but a starting point none-the-less.
I took up the Dutch courses as a "false beginner". I found the Michel Thomas courses very suitable, because what they actually do is teach grammar and syntax, without frightening anyone off by using technical terms. I know of no other course that enables students to construct quite complex sentences of their own so quickly.
The MT courses openly state that they don't teach much vocabulary, but that they aim to provide you with the structure of the language so that you can then go on, using other materials, to build your vocabulary. Of course I had to do extra work to learn a suitable amount of words and phrases, but I was happy with what the MT course had given me.
I spend a lot of time in the Netherlands, and the MTM Dutch has helped me to get to a basic level of Dutch much faster. I've found that the best results though come from combining MTM with some other course personally found Pimsleur good , and then just making the effort to practice every day in every situation, asking native speakers, so you learn things in context.
I have to disagree. It is utterly brilliant. My friends here are astounded I have picked up the language so quickly. I agree that there needs to be other methods at play for comprehension and listening, but I am a huge fan of MT. He explains things simply and has a way of helping you recall things which is excellent. His method of teaching grammar and complex rules is brilliant because I hate "grammar".
With him I find I am learning it without even realising until afterwards. MT method is brillant. I have learned easily english, spanish and german with michel thomas in one year. Im a french native speaker and today im able to speak three languages thanks to his method. MT method is one of the greatest ever. I dont know how good it is at arabic , russian and chinese, but for french, english, spanish and german its just wonderful.
I hope all that resentment is not because because a publisher did not answer your request. Or you just want to promote rocketlanguages? Not recommanding Michel thomas? Are you kidding me? There are so many good testimonies about it everywhere around the world. He is building the Core of the language, he gives you the keys to master the language. Dude you really got a problem. Thumb down. Like many of the above users, I have found MT courses an excellent introduction. I already speak fluent French and Japanese gained from studying not MT and living in those countries.
I think that the original European languages taught by MT are of a very different standard. The constant correction of the students is something I found to be quite clever. Up to 10 years on, I can still remember his lessons and sentences. I found the mandarin one to be pretty useful in demystifying the tones, and moved on to Pimsleur from there. However, being multilingual, and having learnt in classrooms, self study and in situ, I highly rate these courses as a good introduction and foundation into a language, from which point you can build via other study methods.
I tried Spanish, French and Mandarin and first of all, i have to say that i tried Madarin for 5 mins and quit because it was very slow. Wayyy too slow for me to focus. I lost what i'm trying to learn. For Spanish and French, for me as an Asian, I think it's very convenient and quite useful for a start. After I finished the first whole lesson I wanted to learn more.
I think that is the use of it. It gets you hooked up and able to hold on to something. I feel confident when telling people that I am learning French because i'm not scared to show them a few sentences from the top of my head without even thinking. This I have never felt with the conventional way of learning languages. I'd say try it first just for you to feel comfortable speaking other languages that you are not familiar with. Then you can move onto something with more coverage.
Can anyone let me know how far they have gone with the Advanced French? I haven't tried it but all the examples I listened to seems a bit boring for me. It would be so nice if anyone here can recommend me which audio lesson I should go for after MTM. Thanks, a really good in-depth post.
Personally, I found MT really good for instilling confidence, alas in the real World that confidence soon came crashing down. However, I would say that I love his approach to generalizing verb endings French and Spanish courses and although they are only generalizations they've helped me pick out tenses when listening and reading. I have to say, I take strong issue with this review.
I'm hesitant to write so much here, because I don't want to seem callous or dismissive which is all too common on the internet. I do admit that regarding the MT method, I basically have anecdotal evidence: myself. I'm the only person I know who has learned a language Spanish well, by starting with MT.
That doesn't mean I know people who learned nothing from MT. What I mean is that MT is not well-known apparently, and I have met nobody else who even knows who he is, never mind have learnt an entire language starting with him. I've been an English teacher for 10 years and I have met and worked with a lot of people, not just those working on English. I'll try to keep the main part of this comment the retort? In my opinion, most people critical of MT's method don't understand what the aim was.
The MT courses are meant to teach grammar and how to structure a sentence including the pronunciation and other language tools necessary in order to gain "the open door" which is what MT says at the end of his courses. Why should they include listening comprehension?
A language learner can do as much listening comprehension as they want in their own time, and a teacher is not necessary. Especially now with the internet and YouTube. The student can "tailor" if that's what they want to call it a comprehension course for them self, free of charge!
The foundation of a language is its structure. Regarding pronunciation, I haven't heard the Arabic course, so perhaps the teacher's accent really is atrocious. In my humble opinion, pronunciation at the first stages should be clear, but not necessarily perfect.
Babies and toddlers are, arguably, the best learners in life. But learning English, how many babies cannot immediately pronounce the "th" in three? In my experience, basically none of them. In my personal experience, I couldn't pronounce the Spanish "j" similar to the "ch" in Scottish loch correctly for 2 years after I had my first experience in Spanish.
Pronunciation is a long process, and after the first introduction where it must be clear and distinct , the rest is mostly unconscious in my experience - just like natural acquisition of a new local accent. I had to live with Brummies for a good year before I could make a decent approximation of it. So, again in my humble opinion, I don't think having a native speaker is really necessary - a bonus, yes, and clear, absolutely - for the teaching of the foundation, which is to say the structure.
As for why so many celebrity endorsements? That was never a mystery to me. MT was a savvy guy, and not to mention a little unscrupulous at times, as can be seen with his exaggerated wartime stories, or just plain fabrications - he was a storyteller. And you can see in his courses where his imagination and little stories to help the new language points stick came from.
And for 50 years he basically only taught the rich, and so that was and still is his niche market. When he tried to introduce it to education systems, the educators wanted him to explain his method first, which he was reluctant to do as he was very protective of it perhaps, again, he was worried about the money? I can't say for sure. In the end, they refused to work with him without his divulging his method, and he refused to work with them for that.
So he was left with his school, teaching celebrities. I know it is basically anecdotal, as I have a survey sample size of one me! My personal language learning theory and "method" I don't like using this word is: language teachers are not supposed to teach the language, they are supposed to teach HOW to learn the language. Then the student takes this skill and continues to learn the language, or another language, or perhaps any other subject.
In my experience most language teachers don't do this, and so the student imitates and learns by rote, and when the class or course is over, the student leaves and learns almost nothing else, ever. I finished Spanish not terribly fluent, but it gave me the confidence and the tools to go and finish the job myself. In my experience as a teacher, almost the whole industry is based around the idea of making the student happy. Language classes are basically an endless stream of different sensory stimuli, where you have to keep the student entertained, happy and distracted.
I'm always exasperated how everyone thinks that a student who has no knowledge of learning methods, never mind the language, is supposed to team up with the teacher and design the class alongside the teacher. I speak as someone with at least reasonable experience in teaching a language, and experiencing how people learn. Perhaps I am a special case, and I already had a talent for languages I would love to hear that! But in my humble opinion, MT's course was very very good. I could write a lot more on this, as there is a lot of nuance, but I don't want this comment to drag any more.
I studied Portuguese with books, various courses before discovering MT - It took me years to grasp what learning a language is all about. For me, MT is the fastest way to get a handle, a grasp without months, years of language learning. Its true what you say about listening skills. When I started YouTube was not available - now it is, you can simply watch a few minutes a day of programs in the language you are learning to help facilitate your learning.
For me, I have even taken the transcripts of all the MT courses, combined them, removed the duplicates and any language I want to learn, I pay someone overseas to read them and repeat the sentence. If you listen to a podcasts, radio, television in that language - you will learn a lot.
Achieving fluency is a pipe dream. I am a native English speaker and do not know every English word. The goal is to get to the 15, - 20, words. The MT method is by far the fastest way to get speaking. In my earlier years I jumped too fast from one language to the other. Now I will work on one language for months.
That is to learn 15,, words. Get the grammar down Learn to read Learn to listen. I also combine this with the most common phrases, sentences in that language. Thomas's claims were verified by the government. He was awarded a Silver Star. Those aren't easy to get, and definitely require verification and proof.
I'd trust this over a journalist. Also, I'm using this language for French, and I'm amazed at how well it's working. A beloved French-speaking He used the English one to learn English, and has attained fluency without ever sitting on a French class through this method and English movies and books.
I don't think this method, or any method, should be used on their own, but rather that a few ways should be used together. In addition to this, I'm going into week 4 of an accelerated, total-immersion French class, and am surprised to find myself understanding a lot because of Thomas's French course, and I just finished the first disk of the first set!! I've just been speaking Arabic with a Parisian greengrocer and a Parisian taxi driver. This is after using MTM for three months.
Not a brilliant conversation but enough to get a big smile and a look of surprise. I really like MTM. I do not like the ones with MT himself as the teacher. I find him extremely irritating and lose my train when he interrupts the students but the Arabic method with Jane and Mahmoud is great. Unlike you, Donovan, I love the way that Jane speaks Arabic because she's English like me and she pronounces Arabic well enough to be understood and she's good at explaining HOW to get your speech organs around a word.
And if she can do it then I possibly can too. I also like the fact that you learn about your own language internal and external plurals for example and the fact that if you do the equivalent in Arabic of pluralising incorrectly and you say 'mouses' instead of mice, you will be understood. I also like the building blocks approach and the way in which you soon get a vocabulary that you can use and fit in to the basic syntactic patterns you've acquired.
And the way the 3 consonant root thing works and learning about the English words that have come via Arabic. It's very do-able. So I get what you are saying but would have to disagree. I found the MTM helpful, mainly in learning to speak French, not so much in comprehension. However, there was a limit to how much it could teach me. I think it is a great resource to use along side other things. I would definitely recommend taking other steps to learn a language as well, but the MTM was, for me at least, a great stepping stone.
I find the Michel Thomas Method courses an excellent place to start when embarking on the process of learning a new language. I find the method efficient in getting me off the starting block. I think this is important because a sense of making progress breeds faster further progress.
I also think the method is quite effective in starting to push structures over into long-term memory due to the repetition and recall elements. In my opinion, there is no such thing as a complete course because attacking from all angles, and over and over again, is par for the course with what will ultimately be the lifetime endeavour of learning and maintaining a language.
So, I'm not too concerned that, yes, I will have to buy other materials like a grammar and seek out TV programmes in the target language etc. I do wish they were cheaper, but then, I wish everything were cheaper! I have noticed that, as a teacher, I have the tendency to take the comment about the responsibility for learning being the teacher's and not the student's rather too personally!
While I can't comment on the Arabic courses, I can however comment on how the Japanese lessons were. They are definitely effective than most lessons I've tried, including Pimsleur. MTM teaches you proper grammar and sentence construction, when others just asks you to memorise phrases without explaining in detail how those phrases or sentences were constructed. I'm a spanish language learner, and before trying to learn any other language than english, I was unaware of MT method, when I decided to learn french, i found Michel Thomas and Pimsleur methods.
In my own opinion bro, the only certain thing in this universe is that everything is relative, it doesn't matter my reasons to express that I found Michel Thomas method EXCELENT and very accurate at the time of my french learning journey, it simply worked for me, the learning was simply effortless, but it's just me, if this course is useless for other people, great, then go find the course that fits your personality and your way of learning, but there's no such thing as right or wrong, just diversity of methods, that's why there's pimsleur, Rosetta, Fluenz, earworms, and the traditional way, that is going with some teacher and having the pressure of doing a bunch of homework and exercises from some book, and all of them are OK and WRONG at the same time, but it depends on the learning approach of each person.
I would recommend it? Hell no! Peace language learners I honestly couldn't disagree more with almost everything you've written here. To each their own I guess I used the Polish course and found it fine, it gave me the backbone I needed for a running start. The massive criticism is that once you've gone through it once, you'll never want to repeat the 8 hours of the two students struggling and the teacher a polish lady, fluent in English explaining things.
It seems like poor value for them not to include a condensed version, with only the English sentences followed by the native polish translation - with everything else cut out, it would probably only be an hour long! Still, I would recommend the Polish foundation and advanced, in conjunction with something that focuses on everyday, classic tourist scenarios like pimsleur.
I married into an Italian family, though my husband has grown up in the UK but his extended family live in Italy. I'm on lesson 70 of the beginners package and soon to move on to the intermediate. While I don't agree with the "good teacher, poor student" claim for this method, or the celebrity endorsements, I do think this method is good.
No method is perfect. This is purely a method to learn speaking and how to become understood. No, it does not equip you well for listening to natives. I always ask people in Italy to speak slower, but that is because learning a language doesn't end with completing a course and everyone speaks quite rapid in their native language. You have to immerse yourself! Use what you have learnt to practice with people.
I really enjoy this course. It is good that they have a male and female sudent so I can spot the differences for masculine and feminine words. I have learnt far more Italian via this course than I did in my 5 years of French and Welsh in secondary school and by any other app, program or youtube video. I often look up the conjugations and spelling. I do think if you had tried a new language you may see the benefits of this method. Sure it doesn't offer a "complete" introduction to the language.
In the introduction it says it's aim is to get you speaking with confidence. I think if you are serious about a language then you wouldn't rely solely on one method for learning. Honestly, my grammar in Italian is actually better than my husbands now.
His understanding of natives is better having grown up listening to it, but he never took Italian academically and rather picked up what he knew from staying in Italy in the summers and from his father who spoke it when he was very young, but he never took it seriously to become fluent like his sister did.
I think your personal criticisms of him are harsh and have no bearing on this method. I know MT is Polish, so he has an accident and so do the students, but he does correct the pronunciations of the students and to be honest, it doesn't affect me. I find his teaching of the pronunciations adequate.
The Japanese program was fantastic. I'd started and stopped many different language programs, even dropping out of a class I'd signed up for, because none of them were really working for me. But the MT program really worked in getting the language to make sense to me. I still remember the day that Japanese sentence structure clicked in my head - I suddenly understood how to mesh different sentences together, and it all made sense to me.
I think this was due in big part to how in-depth the woman on the program explained everything. It was amazing. The Italian version was done by Michele himself, and it didn't work as well for me. It may have been the heavy accent, I'm not sure but I couldn't get into it like I had the Japanese program. I think it's pretty heavy-handed to say that the program shouldn't be suggested for anyone - people learn in different ways, and this program rocked for the way I learned the Japanese language.
A friend had raved about them about four years ago when I didn't speak a word of the langauge. I listened to them several times over and they were a great launchpad for learning Spanish. I then started attending a class for beginners at the Latin America Institute here in Vienna and the tapes were an incredible advantage for me - allowing to grasp grammar concepts a lot more easily than the others in the class. I now read novels and newspapers in Spanish, listen to Spanish radio and chat with Spanish-speaking friends.
Sure Michel Thomas isn't going to make you fluent but it's definitely a great way to learn some holiday Spanish and more importantly to lay the groundwork for the real learning if you really want to speak the language well. I imagine that's true of all these language methods. I recommend the tapes to all my friends who talk about learning a language from scratch. I don't work for the Thomas organisation. Hi, I just have to say I love MT method and I don't work for any companies involved in it in any way!
I'm always recommending it to people who are looking to learn a language. The one thing I would say though is that I've only learned European languages French, Spanish, Italian, Dutch and Portuguese and I think a lot of the less flattering comments seem to be about the non-european languages, perhaps it doesn't work so well for these? I did try the MT Polish and didn't get very far with it it was really hard! But I would reiterate, I love learning languages and for the French and Spanish in particular it's the best I've found for me personally.
But I guess we are all different and different styles suit different people? When giving a thorough critical review of a product it might be worth mentioning to state current alternative products you prefer to use when learning Arabic. This is pretty much the political situation in the Middle East and their viewpoint of western societies. Israel is the most advanced economy in the Middle East with incredible technology startups meanwhile the deranged countries next door are too busy being critical of Israel as you are with MT to offer any real value to the world.
As a native English speaker with 8 years of study in Latin and half a lifetime studying French and keeping up with it via podcast who's done "7-week crash-studies for travel" in Spanish and Italian, and as someone who NEVER looks at a new language when first studying it I'm great with the written part -- it's my fluid-pronunciation handicap I need to immerse myself in , I decided to try Michel Thomas for Portuguese because all my old favorite audio-only standbys Instant Immersion era casettes with the "Ann Johnson" narrative, the Rush Hour singalong series, etc.
But that's for my very specific situation already knowing all the grammar, and merely wanting an easily-memorizeable way to transfer that knowledge to new words and pronunciation. But I knew she'd get a kick out of the sentence since she works in customer service, and indeed she understood me.
I tried and failed to learn German that way before a trip. The sentence construction was just too hard to remember at the pace it was presented when I hadn't "put in the work" to make it subconscious. Anyway, for me, so far, it's been good in its niche using audio-only products to crash-course pronunciation, vocabulary, and subtle variations in a language I've already "done the homework" to learn the "hard parts" of. I also have to defend the Michel Thomas method.
It taught me Arabic to a level beyond my expectation. I am also learning Spanish now and there is no match in other courses in the attention to detail in explaining grammar in a really painless manner. Also the focus on correct pronunciation is crucial I believe. It made me start to understand other language courses better. I think MT courses are best combined with a more vocabulary focussed course.
Everyone has different learning styles, but for me this is by far the most accessible way to learn a language, at least for me it is. I found the beginner course at a used bookstore and I have to say I have learned a lot. I am constructing my own sentences from the get started kit.
I love watching Arabic television and hearing words I just learned. We all learn in different ways. I heard this ted talk by a young boy whom speaks fluently 5 languages. He said have fun. Don't get bogged down in the alphabet. What words out phonetically how you hear them and get to communication.
There is where the fun will motivate you. He also said, " If you are not making mistakes, you are not learning. Having used all the app options as well as Rosetta Stone to learn languages Michel Thomas turned out to be one of the limited options to learn European Portuguese as opposed to Brazilian. When I read how the course worked I approached it with a lot of scepticism about how effective they would be.
But I have to say that I have never experienced a language learning experience before that so effectively locked in so much of the content. I would definitely recommend the process to anyone trying to learn a language. I have to add that Michel Thomas' personal history and endorsements from celebrities completely are irrelevant to how effective the learning process is.
What I feel is important when one picks up MTM is to have clear expectations and I do agree that the marketing blows those expectations out of proportion, as you said yourself - I picked it up on a friend's recommendation, so I had a much clearer idea of what to expect. The course will definitely not help with listening comprehension.
It does not really give you a whole lot of vocabulary to work with I later supplemented MTM with the entire Duolingo course just to learn more vocab in a convenient way. It will not make you a fluent or even decent speaker. It will give you basic understanding of sentence structure and how to build sentences in a variety of tences, as well as how to make use of some common structures and expressions.
I found that even after all these years, I remember the grammar I learned with MTM much better than a lot of things from other languages learned through other methods. A month ago, I had a chance to put my memory to test during my five-day stay in Spain where I spoke almost exclusively Spanish I have to emphasize that I did not learn Spanish in any other way than MTM and Duolingo, for lack of time and need.
Surprisingly, I was able to succeed with day-to-day interactions without much difficulty, and I attribute at least part of that ease to MTM. I think the review was fairly meaningless in the end - from the point of view of someone wanting to choose a language course like me, for instance. Instead of debating his opinions about how language should be taught and what claims should be made and what today's fashions are he needs to point to studies and comparative results.
And very probably, looking at the comments again, this matching process would need to be repeated for each different language. And I'd say after considering all this that no one can tell us until after we've discovered something for ourselves. But remember what seems apparent about things needing to be reassessed with each new language.
And another: requirement. Just what do you want? Complete fluency undetectable from a native? Or just enough to get by on a quick visit? If there were a scientifically presented and analysed database of language methods, teachers, students and results then maybe we could say something but prior to that we simply, as students, first time students, need to jump in anywhere whim dictates and see what happens. It's all up to us. I was in China for instance and I discovered what I needed from a language was first of all the simple ability to get things, buy things, find things.
So I needed to be able to say 'how much? Never forgot that. Main things: names of foods, 'how much? I've said so much here I might as well go the whole hog and say one more. Doing MT Russian I repeatedly notice they go on about how this or that English phrase is said this or that way in Russian: and it frequently takes fewer words. Like big deal, a plus, Russian is great because it takes fewer words.
I don't mind. But it seems to me they get it wrong. They say Russian for something like maybe 'where can i buy cigarettes' is whatever it is. And point out there's no little particles of speech. So it comes out like like: where possible buy cigarette? So that's how Russians speak. They just say 'want food' or something like that, you know? They don't say : I am interested to know where can I buy food' they just say 'interyesna buy food'.
I'm not explaining myself very well. They give us the translation as though the Russian HAS said it. But Russian just doesn't talk like that. Same as the English don't say 'he table like she ship' but the French do, with their 'le' and 'la'. See what I mean? Like if you look at Pidgin, New Guinea Pidgin, there's no pretense there that they're saying the same thing. It is not 'This thing is exactly the same as that thing' it is something like 'Dispella allsame datpella' and that's the end of it.
I think this feature should be much considered in teaching languages: that they just don't say the same things. I'd agree. I tried MT method French, and it was just a guy with a French accent shouting the English and then the French, without any real flow or structure.
It was like he'd been told to say all the phrases he knew in both languages, as he thought of them. I don't rate this method at all, plus I can't easily go and find relevant phrases or vocab, as I can in virtually every other course. This was just random. I concur that there is virtually no comprehension, but I find the explanations a great assist in understanding any of the 'natural' learning styles e.
Pimsleur, which is always my starting point. If there's a serious shortcoming with that combination, it's one that is shared by most resources I find - they top out at a very basic conversational level. MT works great in many languages, and what you are writing is complete misleading political bullshit!
And for the sake of argument, what do you recommend? Have you tried a lot of courses out there? How great did Rosetta Stone help you? Everybody is different in learning and by posting this bullshit article with your personal shortcomings you are spreading the wrong news about the fantastic method that helped millions. I can't believe someone would attack MT method--this is insane As an educator, you should know that. There are really only four Michel Thomas courses.
French, Italian, Spanish, and German. The rest were made up after he died. I have to say I found the French course extraordinary. I made more progress in a couple of days than I did studying Spanish in school for five years. MT just makes the grammar so effortless. I did his Total German course and loved it.
I felt so much more confident in speaking. I was working as a tour guide at the time and met Germans daily and this course really helped. I will say though that this course was not my grounding in German, I did duolingo German up to the genitive case stage and stopped for some reason I can't remember.
Michel Thomas is definitely not wonderful for learning a massive vocabulary but he teaches you how to learn. I would say his course alone is not enough, he does not even get into der, die, das, den, dem, des, etc, but if you buy a dictionary and a grammar book to the side and get a penpal, then he is great. I started his begin French course and had similar results until I had my radio taken away My name is Hasan and I live in Iraq and I notice that you're learning Arabic, so if you want any help I will be more than happy to help you.
Thanks for your review! I actually like the MT courses I used Italian, Spanish and French and even a bit of German, even though that's my mother tongue , but I never considered them real language courses, for the same reasons you give. I used them alongside real courses at my university, because I liked how they only required you to listen and pay attention I used to take long walks with them without using other material and I was very pleased by how they managed to get through most of the important aspects of a languages grammar, even giving some historical context and connecting concepts of those languages to English.
I see them as a useful tool to very quickly understand the workings of the languages grammar, allowing you to use it correctly without much effort, but without learning the language in some other, more profound way, the MT courses are pointless. First of all, I have a diplom as teacher in french language for foreigners, and comparing the methods was part of what I learned, so I can see wich are the good and week points of a method. But french teaching of foreign languages is wordly famous for being awful, leading people to think that french people themselves are awful at languages ; - I needed to learn a bit of nederlands to spend a year in Belgium, but never learned a word of it before.
I've try my newly acquired russian actually speaking with russian and ukrainian people and it went really great. And now I'm back at university, to learn languages and translations, with specialization in russian and german and I can say this method was a major help in preparation for this. And thats the point: I was unable to remind a new language, while the support language is really close to the new language. So I kept answering in english.
And finally stopped to go back to less oral methods, using french as support, which worked better for me. This wasn't a problem with russian, due to the fact that I already knew the language and due to the distance between english and russian. I will actually give a try later to MT method for another language that I don't know, just to see what will be the result but this time using my own language as support, maybe italian or chinese.
But the effectiveness is yet to prove for a totally new language. Or you won't be able to just read a menu in a restaurant not knowing a single hanzi. A good side method but that should not be the single one you use. And I really want to point this :pay attention to the closeness between the support language and the learned language, it can be a difficulty and I'm pretty sure that learning german from zero through english would have been quite difficult too.
And also, I didn't respected the deal, working on my own, listening severaltimes, reading newspapers, using other sources. A good, and, actually, very good method for rewieving acquired knowledge, maybe not that great for starting something new. I've just read your review, and I think I will probably agree with you. Sure, you learn quite "a lot" in only two hours, but what annoyed me from the begining is that the teacher isn't a native speaker.
And it's a BIG problem. I am not German, but for example one of the student was pronouncing "nicht" which means "not" When the teacher finally decided with his weird accent to explain how to pronounce "ch" in German. I mean, I have started German for only one week and even I noticed it immediately! Not the teacher. And here's the second problem : I think it's bad to hear several time in a row other students making mistakes, because it's not good to hear something wrong to learn I mean for me.
German is actually the 4th language I am learning, and I can also say from my personnal experience that this "way of thinking" MT way, block by block isn't very efficient. It is better to directly think in the language you are learning. Like google. Isn't a good way. Of speaking.
Because you will. Be stuck. Like this. For a long time. I think I will finish "the Foundation" anyway, to give it a shot. But I will use it as a tool only. I have tried all the main and some of the online German courses and none of them gets the mind to work as it should do to be able to create an understandable sentence by compounding words quite like MT's method. I did find Paul Daniel's Magic Language course in tapes for French allowed me to now to remember words and gender that I learned 20 years ago.
I found this is an extremely good vocabulary learning method but not good for creating sentences. Most of the most up to date methods of learning language incorporate pictures but these pictures aren't as compelling as the pictures you create in your mind via Daniel's audio tapes. Visual hooks as they are termed, need to be created in conjunction with the words to be fully effective. As MT states, we are no longer children and therefore we cannot learn as they can.
I do sense a little professional jealousy among others with regard to MT's teaching methods. As a psychologist, I would agree that there is no such thing as a bad student but a poor teacher is the centre of all our educational drawbacks. Not because they are incapable of teaching, but that the structure of teaching is simply wrong.
Montesori teaching methods work, but are not recognised by teaching autorities and governments. The authorities are right and everything else that is different is wrong. MT states very clearly that learning is to be a stress-free as possible so that the direction he gives can be absorbed. In fact, I would go so far as to say that he allows the student to self teach but to correct when needed. Many students, even those at school, will find an excuse for not learning.
It's in our nature to do so as we have been allowed those excuses. I have heard those holding business seminars and writing on chalkboards and the like, state that they are dyslexic when they are not. They just can't spell and can't be bothered to learn to spell. The USA have met their students half way and simplified the spelling of words so that they are logical such as theater instead of theatre and use liter instead of litre.
Most of the 'ou' vowel combinations have been replaced with 'o' as in labor and neighbor. I guess that the students are saying This 1-hour digital taster course is for beginners who are new to the Michel Thomas Method. Learn over 50 essential words at the heart of Italian and how to put them together to make yourself understood. From the very beginning you will be able to construct simple phrases by listening and thinking out answers for yourself.
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